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belarus50
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« on: February 22, 2010, 03:30:17 PM »

Has anyone found one of these kits anywhere? Nik
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 05:26:30 PM »

107 kits are no longer available. I just recieved a kit for a 108 from foely engines. google it and you should find it. but beware they are not cheap. they also have some kits for 107's. need any other help, just get back to me, and I will help where I can.  Dan...
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 06:32:00 PM »

Hi Nik,

        Try contacting Marcus at TAD -- he is very knowledgeable about whaleboat engines  http://www.tadiesels.com/

         thanks for the measurement for the air intake--I ordered a silencer and will let you know if it works.

          ken
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 09:03:24 PM »

 Thanks Dan & Ken, I know perkins no longer offers rebuild kits for the 107,I'm looking for aftermarket source such as agri kits.I've looked but I hav'nt found it for the 107.Plenty of 108's.Two questions...would a 108 piston work in a 107 and where would you find o-rings for the 107 cyl. sleeves? Thanks Nik                  PS Ken, I'll try to post pics of my boat this weekend
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 09:25:58 PM »

not sure on the pistons or the o-ring question... sorry. if you call the guys at foely engines, they were more than helpful and seemed to have all my answers that I needed. I bought a short block kit and everything to rebuild the head and spent $1700.00 just on parts. at least I was able to find everything that I needed.Give them a call, at least they can get you some answers. PS. and let us know how you fare...Dan.
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 09:29:36 AM »

Re 107 and 108 power packs, was not the 108 Dry liner and the 107 wet liner.  As to piston compatibility the 108 was a bigger CC so no doubt different piston size.  However being a 108 is bigger then there is a possibility that a 108 could be machined to work.

So as I understand it the Perkins 4-107 and Westerbeke 4-107 are the same, quick search on Torresen pulls up the following showing piston and liner kits.  Umm doh more thought on this you have a westerbeke 4-107 but are treating it as a Perkins and hence searching for parts via the perkins route?  Of course I have found internet sites listing parts/prices that are in reality NA.  Case in point I recently ordered a manual from them only to get an email that says that the manufacturer will not supply them this manual so they are removing this listing from the site!  WTF why list it if you have no idea if you can supply it! Angry

http://www.marinedieseldirect.com/catalogs/catalog_group.php?owner=mdd&page_ident=13765-207&model=40%20/%204-107%20/%204-108%20/%20WPD%2010%20/%20WPDS&manufacturer=Westerbeke&title=WESTERBEKE%2040%20-%20CRANKSHAFT%204%20PISTONS&quant_position=&catalog=13765&printparts=13765&printservice=20502&printoperators=&comment1=

More thoughts depending on liner thickness one can always have the liners re-sleeved of course though you still need to get a viable piston, an unavailable piston/liner is not the end of the world however for an engine such as the 4-107 not really a classic so to speak then the machining costs just are not worth it in the end.

One more source would be the following an expat Perkins specialists now in CA:
http://britishmarine-usa.com/

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« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 09:56:44 AM »

Nobby is right.  Brian at British Marine will have any information you might need.  Are you looking fo an entire rebuild kit or just sleeves?  When the Sea Scouts picked up some of their Whaleboats they got a treasure chest of rebuild parts.  I will not be back over there for a week or two but I will check.  I was told that there are several rebuild kits on the shelves. 
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« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 06:35:49 PM »

   Ron, Yes I'm interested in  a complete kit...also the treasure chest. Nik                                                                                                                                 
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2010, 12:00:23 PM »

I will check with the powers "that be" and see what they will part with.  It may take a week or so.  I know all the parta are stored at the back of a container.  We only have surfboats so the Westerbeke parts will not work for us.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2010, 12:16:39 PM »

I have the Tech Manual for Westerbeke Diesel Engine Models 4-107, 4-108, 4-99 and 14088 Spec "B" if anyone needs it.  I didn't look very hard, but it does have an illistrated parts breakdown of each of the sections of the engine with part numbers and how the parts are in relationship to each other.  I also have the Westerbeke Diesel Engine Service Manual for Model 14088.  These are the Navy Tech manuals.  Let me know.  Not sure they would help, I didn't look into it.  I was just reading posts at work.
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 07:53:09 AM »

I have also seen short blocks (blocks with crank, pistons, sleeves etc...) show up on the government liquidations site recently, they were in Missouri or Oklahoma so I didn't bid on them, but the government is still getting rid of parts for these engines.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2010, 08:00:57 AM »

On the whaleboat.us homepage there is a download section that has some of the engine manuals in pdf format.

Ron
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2010, 09:56:34 AM »

Phil    I didn't know the gov't was getting rid of these ...do you have to buy them in lots?
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2010, 11:01:14 AM »

For what it's worth...

http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=3021812&convertTo=USD

This is a lot that includes 5 Westerbeke ignition distributors...P/N 036178; 14 Westerbeke governors...P/N 34821.

Auction closes in ~ 4 hrs.

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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2010, 01:29:43 PM »

The short blocks were in separate lots, there were about 6 of them, probably because of a high dollar value, I also saw a lot with three starters in it about a year ago, but many times the stuff is mixed in some huge pallet lot which pretty much renders it impossible to get.  I saw the distributors, but I don't think diesels use them, so they must have been built by Westerbeke for another piece of equipment. Just search the government liquidations site for Westerbeke from time to time and see what comes up.
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